In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. Can't keep enough at the house. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . I use tight group for 9mm. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . YMMV. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Upload or insert images from URL. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. 1.100 in. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. Reply Quote. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . No Charges? She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. 4.2, 1.155 coal will work well. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. This powder is very popular. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Thanks for your patience. I want to be safe. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. JavaScript is disabled. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. C.O.A.L. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. Thanks guys. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Nov 7, 2015. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. We will pass. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. You need to get teh double disc kit. Loading is always at your own risk. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Starting at mid range up to max. 3.4 gr. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. and 8 lb. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. containers. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. What is your favorite firearm to load for? Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? I do know its about mid charge range tho. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. and 8 lb. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Then work up from there. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 I am also using the Xtreme bullets. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. You are using an out of date browser. You cannot paste images directly. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Load at your own risk. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Probably saved me some money. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. 2.8 gr. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. was 1146fps. JavaScript is disabled. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Makes 900fps out of my G17. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I am gonna give it a try. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Nuts accurate. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. You say that now. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Thanks for the input everyone! Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Is this not a safe load? I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. Use the LRN and you will be good. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. By containers. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! JavaScript is disabled. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I dont think i would worry about it. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. I consider the type of bullet. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. Pasted as rich text. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. I'm thinken a 124 cast over 4.0 of titegroup has anyone tried that. 6 grains? His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. LOL. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Makes an impression on you. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. behind a 115gr. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions.

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